tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5079297043552042968.post2596569984438133675..comments2024-03-28T14:02:40.132-04:00Comments on Discovering Urbanism: More on the hyperdensity of ManhattanDaniel Nairnhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14127732825472374125noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5079297043552042968.post-7659400945255364652017-01-26T13:50:16.604-05:002017-01-26T13:50:16.604-05:00There's a chance you qualify for a new governm...<b>There's a chance you qualify</b> for a new government <b>sponsored</b> solar energy program. <br /><b><a href="http://green.syntaxlinks.com/r/BestSolarEnergySystem" rel="nofollow">Determine</a></b> if you are eligble now!Bloggerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07287821785570247118noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5079297043552042968.post-40466066425361022572009-10-01T06:00:26.524-04:002009-10-01T06:00:26.524-04:00Daniel, Paris actually scores well in terms of reg...Daniel, Paris actually scores well in terms of regional population per square mile. I've never been, and my European geography is, well, non-existent, but I seem to remember hearing that its suburbs are relatively dense. That's why this metric can be somewhat misleading: high regional population per square mile could come from either really high density in the central city and less density in the surrounding suburbs (New York City = 2,050 pp/mi2) or from choking sprawl throughout an entire region with very few pockets of skyscraper-level density (San Jose = 2,300 pp/mi2). That's two very different land use patterns with roughly the same regional population per square mile.LHhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02127870226377459490noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5079297043552042968.post-10119374222482462342009-09-30T08:21:36.199-04:002009-09-30T08:21:36.199-04:00LH, That's a great list. It makes sense to mak...LH, That's a great list. It makes sense to make these comparisons by metro region. Otherwise, it's very difficult to account for the differences between residential, and commercial/industrial use. I suspect that's the problem with what I heard about central Paris. It might only be accounting for population residency by square mile, which is not fair because so much more employment is located in Manhattan.Daniel Nairnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14127732825472374125noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5079297043552042968.post-12222882307519776312009-09-30T05:12:17.558-04:002009-09-30T05:12:17.558-04:00Here is a link to the world's largest metro re...Here is a link to the world's largest metro regions, sorted by population density -http://www.citymayors.com/statistics/largest-cities-density-125.html. The first US metro region shows up at #90, and it is (surprise!) Los Angeles. Somewhat artificial, I know, since they're looking at the whole region and not just the city boundaries; but interesting nonetheless.LHhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02127870226377459490noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5079297043552042968.post-50934053787539283172009-09-28T21:22:22.735-04:002009-09-28T21:22:22.735-04:00Benjamin. Insightful comments as always.
I'll...Benjamin. Insightful comments as always.<br /><br />I'll get back to you on the Paris density. I don't know the answers to your questions, but I probably should. You're right that those are important distinctions.Daniel Nairnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14127732825472374125noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5079297043552042968.post-79891066890808852882009-09-28T19:15:46.407-04:002009-09-28T19:15:46.407-04:00Daniel, As usual thanks for the very interesting l...Daniel, As usual thanks for the very interesting link! Some comments:<br /><br />Some quick comments<br /><br />1) Although I'm all for high densities (as one can probably tell from my past posts here and elsewhere), I’m skeptical about the vision expressed by Vishaan Chakribarti, which seems to be one of misguided centrally PLANNED high densities.<br /><br />2) I agree that what happens at street level is of extreme importance, and it seems to me that planners and orthodox modern architects have a tendency to ignore what happens at street level. Look at the streetscape formed by today’s Manhattan skyscrapers (both commercial and residential ) and compare them to the streetscapes of the skyscrapers built in the before WWII. (I disagree with what I understand to be the Christopher Alexander position though.)<br /><br />3) While I agree that a city doesn’t HAVE to be as dense as Manhattan to succeed as a city, I don’t think there is anything wrong with allowing Manhattan like densities to occur.<br /><br />4) I’m skeptical that Paris is as “dense” as Manhattan or, if true, that such a statement has the meaning that people think it has. Which parts of Paris and which parts of Manhattan are being compared? Could Manhattan have a lower density because of more abundent park land? Is the density that is being discussed solely residential density or is it overall density (including offices, warehouses, factories, etc.)? Even among solely residential areas, which areas are being compared? Also what are the size of the apartments being compared?<br /><br />Mon., 9/28/09 -- 7:15 p.m.Benjamin Hemrichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02774747428869052111noreply@blogger.com